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This is great news. I know I can't wait to see the innovations and quality you are bringing to the Indian name. I'm hoping you can release more on the particulars of the Chief and more photos and videos soon.

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Hey IMC this is great, actual news from the Mountain folk. I'm thrilled to hear about a possible pre-order and a maybe new motorcycle. If I see some stuff to order we may soon be able to possibly have options to review. Okay, I know I'm being sarcastic, I'm sorry. I really, really do want IMC to be a great motorbike. I love Harley's and all the big cruisers but Indians are a work of art, to me anyway. I'm very excited and impatient to see what you guys have done. Good luck and Thank you for all your hard work.
"Marty"

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Nice to see the Indian Motorcyles being reborn again. For all of us that purchased Indian Motorcyles during the last rebirth, is the company going to make parts available for the productions models from 1998 to 2003?

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Sounds like Indian is moving along nicely.
There are a lot of people who are still curious, and would like some questions answered.
Cost of Machine?
Warranty?
Dealerships locations?
Components? (We still don't know ANYTHING regarding Engines--Transmissions--Brakes etc.)
Will you build parts to suport the Gilroy bikes?
Do you hold any liability to the still existing safety recalls on the Gilroy Bikes?
Congratulations Indian Motorcycle--we wish you well on your return to the American Road.
But we still have a lot of questions for you to answer.

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Just a big question here. Indian of Weston is not being selected as a dealer. As one of the only dealerships left open, I am curious. Weston has outstanding service and is my choice for a dealership. I was told that they are not located in an area that Indian is interested in right now? Here is a past dealer that is maintaining support for the Garlic Indians and is not even on the list. Whats up with that.

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I really like what is happening at IMC. I own 2 Origional Indian Chiefs, and A gilroy Chief. I have had and riden Indian since 1964 and they are the best thing that has ever happened to me, I love indian Motocycles. Keep up the good work and when the new Indian is ready and only when it is ready, bring it out.

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Hey, I am very excited about the New Indian Motocycles coming out; I own a 2001 Indian Chief and have Kustomed it out to fit me and it gets all the looks; I am very proud of being an Indian Motocycle owner, I look forward to meeting many others who purchase the New Indian Bikes, Indian is special and left a historical mark that can never be diminished; Lets all step up to the plate and support Indian as they come back again, this time for keeps; Signed:  "Rez Dog, Warrior Secretary, Seattle Iron Indian Riders Asscociation.    �

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Caint wait till the new indian bikes hit the show room

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Let's see some CLEAR and REAL photos of ACTUAL RUNNING bikes.

Let's see some magazine articles.

In other words, let's see some actual PROOF instead of the usual baseless platitudes.

This is probably the last chance for the brand name, I sincerely hope you all don't screw it up, but up to now I've seen nothing of any substance whatsover.

Attn: NDN_ryder

NDN_ryder :

We have set up our dealer requirements to ensure the financial longevity of our dealerships. Their success is imperative to our success.

We are aware of and applaud Weston's relationship with the Gilroy Indian community and we hope to be able to offer them a dealership in the near future.

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Erin - When you say you hope to be able to offer Indian Weston a dealership in the near future are you implying that the financial conditions of owning an Indian dealership MIGHT be being revised by Indian Motorcycle?
There has been talk lately that your financial requirements seem to be holding back the development of a dealer network.
And there has been talk that your financial requirements are being reconsidered.
Won't it be difficult to sell a new--untested (by the public) motorcycle with no dealer support--and no clear indication of how warranty work will be handled?
It would seem quite a leap of faith for ANYONE to purchase a new Indian Motorcycle with no local wrenches to take care of the inevitable problems.
There are a lot of people cheering you on in this endeavor--but there are also a lot of people beginning to question your direction--which seems to be round about and unfocused.

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KC:

Our current dealer requirements are not public information, neither are our current dealer locations.
When it is time to sell our new motorcycle to the public, there will be a clear indication to the public of how warranty work will be handled.

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We had an Indian Scout - loved it! Then bought the 03 Chief Roadmaster -- NOTHING can compare to the awesome ride or classic beauty of the bike. . It has always stood apart from the "other" bikes. We have never had a problem with it and are very proud owners/riders. A beautiful day, long casual ride stopping at local mom& pops places in small town Americal on the Roadmaster is about as perfect a day as you can hope for

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There's an enormous amount of good will that has been decicated to INDIAN and the success of the Company.Many people who were honest,and hard working ...and dedicated to the success of the Gilroy INDIAN,lost their investment of money,labor,and trust.
Although the current company representatives seem to believe they are somehow entitled to more consideration of the marque and it's loyalty,this is a delusion that offends some of us with a bit more dirt in our face and wear and tear in our bones.
When some folks speak of wanting to actually see the evidence of progress with a new machine,and the foundation to support it's emergence and continuity,it is because so many people have already been fooled by ,and made angry by the slight of hand approach by which good will is consumed,as if it had no value.
So if some,as I,ask for some evidence....if not specific...that marketing of the new product will be targeted to new and present owners of INDIAN motorcycles and a network of dealers,rider groups,and friends interested in their success,please listen.We wish you well,in order that you succeed.

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I also have high hopes for the return of the Indian. I have #242 of the first Chief Run. Must say I love the bike.
With about 1800 miles and many returns to Dealers about a head shake issue, myself and the bike went down at highway speed. Indian Gilroy refused any and all liability in the matter for what was called a Inheriant Design Flaw.. I have rebuilt the Bike it is my baby and yes I survived the wreck withstanding a long time to heal.. I truly look forward to a new Indian. I will be watching your site for updates.. Getting ready to ride in Northern Minnesota..

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Will Indian Motorcycle make a showing this year at the Laconia Motorcycle week in NH? I will be there and would like to at least see on in person.

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I wish Indian the best as it starts down its new road. I sincerely hope that, unlike other motorcycle manufactures, that Indian will take heed that a sale is a one time shot but service is reoccurring. IMC left a bad taste to many people last time around, as I'm sure KM realizes, but it is customer service in their dealerships that, IMHO, will sail or sink this ship. I would enjoy seeing Indian take a VERY active part in monitoring their dealerships. Also, I hope that Indian will start to offer factory tours as soon as this summer. Seeing the Chief being build would be something I'd like. Press on, Indian. The Legend Roars Again!

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I wish you all the best in this endeavor and I hope that you will include parts support for the Gilroy Indians, we could use the help. It certainly would be nice to have a "one stop source" for parts instead of searching Ebay or the handful vendors that still support Indians, figuring out which Harley compatible parts will match up or modifying them to fit our Indians. Thank God for the Indian forums, since Gilroy closed its doors, I believe that they have been the collaborative knowledge base that has kept these bikes on the road and visible to the world for the last 5 years. 2 months after I bought my brand new '03 Roadmaster the Gilroy IMC went under so I have never seen true manufacturer support on these. When you release those new Chiefs, hopefully we won't have to answer those questions anymore i.e. "Didn't they go out of business?", "When did they build these?", "Where were they built?" or from the even less knowledgeable... "Indian, I've never heard of those before" and "Is that a Harley?" Once again, the best of luck to you all and I hope that you continue to keep Indians on the road for many years to come.
Mike

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I own a 2001 spirit, 29,900 miles and change later I'm still riding strong. Looking foward to riding that new Chief shouldnt be parked to much. Long live the real legend Indian Motorcycles.

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THIS BLOG MENTIONS A GILROY DEALERSHIP STILL LOYAL TO THE INDIAN BRAND. I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER GILROY DEALERSHIPS STILL CARRING THE INDIAN BANNER HIGH THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF. COULD YOU LIST THESE SO WE OWNERS KNOW WHERE TO TAKE OUR BELOVED INDIANS TO GET EXPERIANCED SERVICE. FELLOW RIDERS: INPUT PLEASE

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The weather is turning nice here in tn ,a bit rainey but spring is in the air Bradford pears are blooming the Buttercups are up frogs are singing in the pond. And im in the market for a big twin bike. my sportster still runs great but i have some long distance travel planed.long interstate miles...Now indian folks i have been waiting for some time now holding back from buying till i could see you alls bikes. So please get some bikes on the showroom floor.Now I wish you all the best and I know you all will do just fine.thanks

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Wanting to buy a reliable motorcycle. Im not the harley type. Dont care to spend my money overseas right now. Sure am in love with the styling. Im not a rich man. Even if I were I couldnt throw money after some beautiful romantic notion that didnt run. The money you'll be asking for one of these things will no doubt be alot. Im a parent who tries to do right by his family. I'd love for you to be successful. Ill just have to watch for awhile before I buy. There's only value in it for me if that premium price goes for a premium bike. I'd love to see you guys succeed. good luck.

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I have been buzzin this site for a while now in regards to the news of the "new injun" release. 2008-2009 , I am a avid reader of many motorcycle magazines and have yet to come across and kind of information on the new machine (none that have any depth in info), nor have i seen any "presence" at the motorcycle shows.. priming the motorpsycho public about the pending release of the new product...
I have put on 150,000 klm on my 01 Chief...and loved every one of them...When it is time for a back-up bike ..lol.. (cause that 01 baby has earned it's spot in my garage forever)..i would consider an 09., but only if i could actually sit my deriaire on one.... Lets hope the hype is backed with some real progress...with some MORE presence in the future..in mags...shows and showrooms . I wish you the best..cause you could be.

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Great to see things are coming along for the new Indians. I hope you have a dealer situated in the northwest suburbs of Chicago. Can you let us know if and when parts will be available for the '98 - '03 Indians? Product support for these older bikes is going to be crucial if we want to sell them and upgrade to a new Indian. Best of luck to you and can't wait to see the new bikes rollin' down the highway!

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Humble scout rider . Wonders what happened to the pioneering attitudes of the 40's and 50's when those guys had issues on the road .they took action found solutions and kept on riding . Thats what riding an Indian is all about . My little scout has never left me on the side of the road for too long .never mind the time i tested how far i could go between fill ups . So have a litte faith gentlemen . It may be a few years because my scout has many miles left in her but I WILL HAVE A NEW CHIEF SOMEDAY

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Looking forward to the new Indians.

Each and every post should have been answered by now. Let's start business right.

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I spent the $24.000 in july 2003 onthe chief roadmaster deluxe oil leak of course rite away'. Had A bad motor - change
that out drive belt sqeak - put diffrent brand on - solved that problem. Road & road &road somethimes VERY hard ; I showed
no mercy at all to the 100 power plus. Many a parade; many polker runs later still no oil leaks no problems 14.000 miles later.
Then found compufire starter problems - 3 of them in a row in 3 mo ; now use after market starter [ cumpufire out of
buisness now] . 15,328 miles 404.3 hrs later I finally had to put A front tire on, still likeing it alot.
Hope to see you at Algona Freedom Rally in Iowa

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In RE: to Bear Tooth I live in Ohio near Cincinnati and have to take my scout 2.5 hrs north to Weston, Ohio to get work done. When will you list dealerships that are still servicing Indians and new ones that will? For us Gilroy indian owners I'm hoping that this does not become an issue when the new Indians come out. On to a new subject now, I'm looking to have a feather or two painted on the back of my helmet. I haven't done any research yet but was wondering if anyone can tell me if having 1,2,3 or more feathers on it would be the PC thing to do (if there is such a thing) :) Other then that ride on...

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Come on all you naysayers...all the ones bitchin about results, gotta drive 5 hours for service, blah blah blah, give them a chance. Taking the reigns after the last debacle was not an easy thing to do and then basically start from scratch??!!! There is not ONE easy piece of the puzzle for them to put together here. Do you want to see another Gilroy? If so, just keep bitchin at 'em and make more stress for them...since that is all your doing. I have read enough about the new owners to know that they are not going to release something that is less than what is has to be, whether to live up to the name of Indian or simply to have long time riders say, "This is the best damn Indian I have ever been on." Or do you want to hear, "Damn Gilroy bikes sucked with all their problems." Simply, getting control of the web site, putting in a new facility, establishing a team of kick ass engineers, some of the best in the business is enough to make me sit back and be patient since I want it done right this time. No more "Do-Overs".

The guys bitchin about dealers....there is good reason to bring up the issue and even more of a good reason for the Indian folks to be a bit more particular. We had a used car delearship that was selling and servicing Indians. They sucked beyond belief, and in selling them it was just as bad. I am sure folks out there don't want to see that happen again either.

Despite all the bitchin and chin grabbin and hell raisin the Indian folks are more focused now than any other attempt at bringing the Indian name back to life. Give them a chance....these guys are making a good honest try at making you all happy (I mean Indian die hards). If this time next year they are blowing smoke...be my guest and bitch all you want. But at least give them a chance. Lots of things can change as the new Indian is molded into place and becomes part history and part of the legend.

Chief "Tired of the Bitchin"

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I have a 2001 Indian Chief Nieman Marcus Edition with 1500 miles. Love the bike. The only complaint I have for the 98-01 Gilroy bikes is that the front end feels heavy and wants to flop at low speeds. I belive these bikes have a 36 degree rake and might be the cause of the flop. The weather is great year round here in SoCal. I always get thumbs up when I ride my Chief and or have people walk around it when its parked. Why haven't we seen Indian news in most of the moto bike magazines? I've been trying to spread the word about the new Indian and been directing people to the Indian website. IMC needs to update the site more often, rather than teasing the potential future customers. Summer is coming and people want to ride bikes. If the people cant see what Indian has to offer they will find a different bike to buy. I am tired of seeing the same o Harley roadkings and the new coming Star motorcycles. PLEASE IMC do something to your website and get our pants wet with new updates and photos/videos of your new bikes. Tell us sometihing new and exciting so we can go to bed dreaming about your new creation and our new toys. Tell us about options and upgrades so we can start making a list to budget our check books. I cant reserve someting that I haven't fully seen or sat on. It's like getting married to someone you haven't seen or "you know what". GIVE US SOMETHING to drew over on. PLEASE. Oh one more thing. How much of the will be USA made? I been told from Indian haters that the 98-04 where mainly all overseas parts and that it was considered a kit bike put together in the USA. Remember INDAIN was born in the USA and should be made by AMERICA.

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Well Chief "Tired of the Bitchin"?
Are you saying a nearby dealership and warranty work don't concern you?
Are you saying a 5 hour drive for service would not be a consideration for you?

I believe the used car dealership issue has been laid to rest by KM.
50 dealerships nation wide to start with.
Established within the next 3 years if I remember correctly.

Dedicated showroom exclusively INDIAN!!!!

Nope--no used car dealerships to deal with.

Although I will say.
MY Used Car/Indian dealer from the Gilroy days was one of the most stand up people I've ever run into in the Auto sales/service game.
Jack Miller of North Kansas City, Mo.
And--it sounds like there are a few others out there the Gilroy Indian Community still support.

Bike is rumored to be ready to hit the road this summer, and the location and number of dealerships seems to be a BIG SECRET.

I can't imagine anyone buying a PREMIUM MOTORCYCLE (price will reflect quality) without an established dealership network.

Nope--I'll set back and watch it unfold for now.

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Hi, I'm Italian fan of indian motorcycle and my dream is buy in the future indian Chief.
I see on your home page the new 2009 indian chief and I think that is wonderful.
I hope in a great future for indian motorcycle.
thank you
Luca

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Erin;
Can you at least tell us HOW FAST they actually go before they THROW ON THE BRAKES?
I know a couple of guys that might be interested in helping in that particular prototype testing--Starbucks to Starbucks--and there's a LOT of Starbucks out in California!!!
This bunch I'm thinking of could prove invaluable to the go fast throw on the brakes testing!!!

Let me know--I can hook you up.

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I love the styling of these bikes. I really want one. My riding buddy has a Gilroy Chief, and no one ever coments on my Harley when it is parked next to his. That being said, he has worked very hard to keep that bike on the road. Lots of issues, and very little support. I am very interested in getting a new Indian in a few years. I doubt it will be a Cheif, because I am having visions of a 100 inch power plus stuffed into a bike the size of a sportster. :) I wish the new Indian the best of luck, and I hope smaller bikes will be out in a few years for those of us with legs that won't reach the ground on a Chief. Can't wait to see some reviews of the bikes.

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As far as top speed on a Cheef?
I can tell you.
Over 85 --lose the wind shield.
Over 135--the skirts on the front fender want to begin to lift the front of the bike.

Hey--if you can delay the new Chief one more year?

I'm sending my Cheef back to Joe Malfa this coming winter.

Tell your test riders we can do a comparison after I get him back.

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A friend and I have been watching your web site since 2006 or 2007. For two years, he was telling everbody that he was going to buy a Chief when they came out. He bought a Harley 4 months ago instead. Please update your site and give us more info. I almost broke down myself and bought an '08 Road King. I want an Indian, but need to know more about the product. I am not going to wait too much longer. I like the Road King and would at least be riding. Please update your website with more information so that I can become more informed. If you are trying to create an "air of mystique", you are failing and causing people to loose faith in your ability to deliver your product. If the bike is a well riding, reliable, art piece, I will own one. If this site isn't updated by July with more pictures and specifics, my new 12' x 16' motorcycle shop that is now just being cedar shingled will have a Harley in it. Sorry, I truly hope to be riding an Indian in 09.

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I bought my first Indian motorcycle back in1968,it was a 1946 scout. In 1969 sold it to buy a wedding ring so I could get married, (got a whole $150.00 for it). Well in 2002 I got the itch to ride again told the wife " I still got you and the same ring kids are married and gone I am getting a bike " I wanted to be different,everyone it seemed were buying Harley Davidsons. I visited the Indian dealer in Raleigh N.C. and was blown away by the new Indian Motorcycles and knew I had to buy one,a 2002 cobalt blue scout. I thought that I had arrived until I had 34 miles on the bike and the ignition failed on I-85 and was almost hit by an 18 wheeler. Not too good! I hope Indian will go with a better ignition than Thunder Heart I had two before going to another brand. I still have the scout and love it and love to tell folks that "I have an Indian Motorcycle" I was thrilled to know that the new factory is going to be in Kingsmoutian N.C. down the road a few miles from Durham N.C. Folks get it right this time! do your homework listen to Indian riders and put out a product that people would wait in line to buy. I can't wait to see the new bikes in person . Maybe in Myrtle Beach bike week in May? Ride safe everyone. David Latta 3/31/08

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Cannot wait till you showcase the Chief. Is there a list of the areas that your company is considering for dealerships, if so please tell me that the Austin/San Antonio, Texas corridor is on that list. This area is prime for Long scenic riders like myself. Will wait till the Chief comes out before any new purchase.
Thanks & good luck,
Peter.

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As my name implies, I'm a Harley rider. However, I've always been an Indian fan. Watching the ups and (mostly) downs of IMC has caused pain for the brand, no doubt. When I saw that Stellican had stepped in, I knew that if anyone could do it, they could. Now, it's been a while, and I'm having doubts, but, believe me, I sincerely hope you give the "MoCo" a run for it. And I also hope that your dealerships are more than the boutiques that HD's have become.
Good Luck!

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I CAN;T WAIT TILL THEY OPEN THEN MAYBE I CAN GET A LUGAGE RACK FOR MY 2003 ROADMASTER SPRIT IF ANY BODY KNOWS WHERE I CAN GET ONE LET KNOW YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT rgibbs123@comcast.net THANK YOU.

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I think it's wonderful that the greatest motorcycle company of all time is returning! I just don't want this to be another sorry attempt to copy a legend. I want to see a cheif that can take Harly- Davidson and make them file bankrupcy! HA! HA! HA!
Please post some more pictures and information about the new bikes.

Indian is the most proud name in motorcycle history DON't LET THE NAME DOWN!

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Right now it seems like they are selling the sizzle not the steak! While I want an Indian, I want to see one first,on the road,with someone like consumer reports completing an indepth investigation on the bike! Come on Indian give us some STEAK!

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I've read this on 2 separate blogs so far. Truth or fiction?


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Marilyn Stemp
Apr 8th, 2008 at 9:57 am

I had the opportunity to visit the factory and meet with the staff yesterday in Kings Mountain. They plan to produce 750 bikes in the first year, essentially one model, the Chief, accessorized to four versions, base price in the low 30’s. Looking for a 2009 model year to be released in Fall ‘08 but that’s contingent on getting the assembly line running this summer, and that depends on current engine durability testing. They are hopeful but also determined to release bikes only when they’re ready. They’ve read the blogs, know the history, they’re probably reading this!

The staff is small but very tech heavy, mostly engineers, many with impressive track records in the motorcycle industry. The owners are spending their own money and have one equity investor, no plans to go public. They seem to be spending as necessary, not foolishly, taking a slow growth approach.

They’ll assemble engines and whole bikes at the factory using components sourced mostly in the US, some from Europe, a bit from China for expediency, the latter to be phased out I’m told.

Same style frame as the Gilroy Indian but retooled, built using robotic fixturing. The 105 ci Powerplus EFI engine (50 state compliant) has nicosil-plated aluminum cylinders, forged pistons (piston weight reduced to address vibration issues), new crank, more. They’ve re-designed and re-positioned air intake, re-designed electrical system. Trans is a Baker 6, 5.5 gal one-piece gas tank w/integral fuel pump, short and long fenders are offered. Lower CG, seat height may be a bit lower than Gilroy bike, handlebars have been altered in both width and reach dry weight about 740. Concerning looks, the bikes I saw incorporated refinements in styling that result in improvements over the Gilroy bike, a cohesive machine, no parts tacked on as an afterthought.

They’ve been intentionally circumspect, partly to build interest - we’ve all been wondering what’s going on and talking about them, right? - and partly to keep quiet until they get it right. I’ll look for Cyril’s take later this week.

More detail provided in my article in IronWorks. Sorry, mike x.

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TKO:

Truth. More details to follow in the very near future, especially for Chief's Club members.

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I hope the price quted in the "article" from Ironworks is way off. If Indian has a base price in the low 30's they will never get my business or anybody else's except for the extremely wealthy.

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good to hear that production is finally in sight. but a bit worried about the ''low 30's'' this im afraid will be above most folks price range.This bike i bet will be built as needed with not but a few in the showroom for customers choose from .but im sure they will be fine bikes. But i sure wish Indian would build a bike in the price range of a superglide for working joes and janes who really ride bikes as serious transportation.and of course the fancy ones for rich folk who ride on weekends.But Id like to wish Indian motorcycle company the best luck and the brightest future. ok nuff sed except this ""DONT FORGET THE WORKING STIFFS WHO RIDE TO MAKE A LIVING BUILD US A BIKE AROUND 12 OR 13 THOUSAND TOPS'' THANKS MOTOHEAD....

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Glad to hear all the good news,I have a 2003 Roadmaster and love it. I ride it everywhere and will be willing to spend the money required for the new Indians. I will never part with my current Indian and am sure the same will be true when I acquire one of the new Chiefs. Take your time guys and get it right. Owning a Chief to me is a lifetime investment. I am not wealthy but understand the cost of doing it right.

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Low 30's?! Not cool.

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I was a little shocked when I saw the prices in the low 30s. I'm hoping there are other details overlooked by the casual observer that would command this price. It looks like I'm going to have to put in some overtime to make my payments. Knowing that, I can appreciate Indian's perseverance in making sure these machines come off the line without a single problem. I'm looking forward to the order forms and specs for building my Chief!

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I just bought a 2003 Scout. I love it. I have always admired the Indian. I used to have a HD and felt good about any service issues because they could be handled by the local dealer. I do live close to an Indian dealer who may or may not be one in the near future. My concern is, does anyone know of recals as someone mentioned earlier about these Gilroy bikes??? Does anyone know of something I should be aware of regarding the 03 Scout? Thanks in advance.

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Where is Kings Mountain Located?

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HOLY SHEET METAL..................... LOW 30s IS WAY OUT OF YOUR AVARAGE JOEs PRICE RANGE. I UNDERSTAND THAT IMC IS PUTTING ALOT OF THEIR OWN MONEY INTO THIS COMEBACK, BUT 30K IS NOT WHAT TODAYS VTWIN RIDERS WANT TO SPEND. IM SURE ITS GOING TO BE A NICE BIKE. HOWEVER, ID RATHER BUY A 2003 CHIEF FOR 12K-15K AND DUMP ANOTHER 5K TO WORK ANY BUGS OUT OF IT AND INSTALL A NEW BAKER TRANNY LIKE THE 09s. I WAS REALLY CONSIDERING ON BUYING AN 09 AND WILLING TO SPEND ABOUT 21K-25K. I ALSO HAD A FEW HARLEY BUDDIES INTERESTED IN THE NEW BIKE. IM SURE ONCE I TELL THEM ABOUT THE PRICE, THEY'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THERE HDs. DAMN THIS SUCKS. THIS CHANGES EVERTHING FOR ME AND MY PLANS TO BUY AN 09. ANYBODY LOOKING TO BUY AN INDIAN BETTER DO IT SOON BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THE GILROY BIKES JUST WENT UP. GOOD LUCK IMC. WITH TODAYS ECONIMY AND MAYBE A RECESSION COMING SOON, ITS GOING TO BE HARD TO MOVE ANY OF YOUR NEW BIKES. ONLY THE HIGH ROLLERS WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE NEW 09s. DAMN, DAMN DAMN, IM SO PISSED.

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I've been thinking about the price of the new Indians ever since I was hit in the face with it when I read this blog. We have been waiting a long time for this moment only to have it pulled out from under us at the end. I, like many others already put money down on one of these machines. I, however probably would not have had I known it was going to be this expensive in the end. The low 30's !? Come on, I could by a low end Mercedes for that price. We have been loyal to Indian and have waited patiently. Patience is now at an end. The economy is going down, food and gas are going wayyyyyyyy up. I want to ride a bike for the freedom...the freedom from filling up my truck with expensive gas so that I can fill my kids bellies with food and take care of my wife. Harley is starting to hurt and won't be manufacturing as many bikes this year and Indian wants to sell theirs at a price range that is going to hurt more than it is going to help. I figured the bikes would go in the low 20's at most for the stock bike but to hear it is going to be in the low 30's really is a punch in the face. I'm sorry but I am no elitist that can run out and buy a really expensive bike to show off to my friends at the polo grounds on the weekends. Indian remember where you came from and build us a bike that we can afford. This is simply not fair to the guys that have waited so long for this. We want you to throw us a bone please...and not a $30,000.00 one. By the way Kings Mountain is just outside of Charlotte, NC. Thats North Carolina for those of you in Rio Linda.

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Low 30's is an intelligent price point. It declares exclusivity, keeps the rif-raff out, and guarantees another short run of bikes for collectors. Seriously, I'd pay 30K for a unique American built cruiser that could ride 2-up comfortably across the Country, stow enough gear for the ride, corner like a 999, top speed near the superbike range, superb braking, 200 mile fuel range, heated seats and grips, Nav, and 100k/10 year fender to fender warranty. I certainly hope that's what's hitting the streets at the end ofthe year....if so - I'm there Baby! If not....ho hum, have fun with the huge discounts.

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Exclusivity.... so you wanna ride alone Premetalman... with your attitude... you probably will....30K+ out of my price range... so I must be rif-raff in your eyes.... but I see me as an honest hardworking American joe..... that just won't put that kinda jingle in any mode of transportation... hopefully after you've tired of yours... I can pick it up on the cheap...

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Uhmm - I was being facetious....I thought I left enough clues - guess not.

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Premetalman, are you serious? Bikes are for riding, first and foremost. Production bikes are just that, production bikes that must compete with the rest of the market. If you want a collectors bike, go have one built, park it in your museum and look at it. The other 99% of us ride our bikes. If you read the blog that was the base price. Good luck with your luggage, superbike speed, heated seats, blah blah blah. I own an Indian Spirit already and love it. I would love to own a KM Indian but $30K is way out of my price range so I guess me and the riff-raff will keep on riding while you and your collector/weekend warriors are busy looking at and polishing each others trophies. By the way, who is Indian competing with in this price range? Base prices for THE OTHER companies bikes fall well short of 30K. Thumbs up STU, maybe we can all get a ride together to premetalmans museum.

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as we look to the future, let us not for get the past. I have read on the home page as I have heard countless times, that the Gilroy Indians looked like harley's. My response is, No, harley if anything look like Indians! isn't Indian the first american bike? didn't Indian make the first V-twin, just to name afew things. Hey, even Sturgis was started by Indian riders. you got to know your history. come to find out, even though the Gilroy bikes had the carburator on the right side, harley had a bike in 1964 with their carb. on the left. I know, I've seen it, the K model. I'm biting at the bit for the return of America's first name in motorcycles. So, yes harley-davidson lives, but Indian Motorcycles started it all! Know your history! ride on!!!!!

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Let's see if anyone is listening. As a former Indian mechanic, HD Service Mgr and Advisor and Honda / Kawi Service Mgr I feel qualified to issue this wake-up call: is anybody watching the state of affairs at the HD dealerships? Many have closed and the showrooms are flooded with overpriced toys. Discretionary income is at an all-time low with no more re-fi money available. The so-called "chopper" (their really customs) faze has dried up with vendors on the edge or in the middle of bankrupcy. The used bike market is flooded with poser bikes the owners can't make the $500 month payments on.

Sadly, many used Indians are sitting unsold / unused due to past quality issues and/or parts availabilty or access to savvy technicians. I love Indian and always will - my retirement (soon) will focus on re-manufacturing the Gilroy bikes in my shop in New Mexico.

The reason for this dribble is simple: Even the oil companies ripping us off at $4.00 plus/gallon won't support volumne sales of a $30K bike. Consider a re-manufacturing program for the Gilroy bikes. Support those people who supported the brand.

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Forgot one key issue in yesterday's blog - any thoughts been given to a 3-wheel Indian? I know, it violates the vintage purist outlook - but it is reality.

The relative age of those riders who can afford to play with the high-priced spread is increasing at a rapid rate promting a significant resurgance in trike interest - balancing 800 lbs on two wheels for long stretches loses its' machismo after awhile. Not to mention it's one hell of a lot safer to tow a trailer (cooler) behind - matching Indian Trailers?

Conversions are not without registration/smog issues as curb weight increases. It is best all around to deal with this out of the gate. Can guaranty u that the aftermarket will and have little concern for how it impacts factory warranty. To ignore the aging market may prove short sited - we are living longer.

Sidecars? - subject for another day.

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I bought a 2000 Indian Chief new off the showroom in 2001 with 34 miles on it. I picked it up for 17,900 from the dealer because it was a showroom model and many asses sat on my bike. I've put 12,000 mile on the ride over the years, traveling to Myrtle Beach bike week, Rolling Thunder, Americade, and a lot of New England rides. The bike has really held up well. I had a voltage regulator problem early on that was covered by warranty. I've had my bike serviced at Indian dealerships in St Albans, VT, Springfield, MA, South Royalton, VT, and even go to Yamaha dealers for service. It's a big V-twin....luckily I have a S and S engine making it a bit easier.

The bike is a real eye turner, however, it'll be a few years before I spend that much on a new one. I think 20-25K is reasonable as you'll find you won't need any add-ons to make an Indian compare to a chromed out HD. When I get gas with my buddies who ALL own HD's.....I'm the one most people come talk to (kids, chicks, and old seniors who "remember when"). We've had several breakdowns over the years and I've never been in the photo getting the tow! I've always been taking the picture of my friend's HD and his smiling face.

Good luck to the company, do it right, do it for your valued riders.

Doing it Right !!!

It can take another 2 yrs for all i care - and i'll tell ya why. HAVE ANY OF U WHINNING babies started biznes b4???

Stellican is 'not' - i repeat 'not' even remotely similar to the Gilroy money grumbing whores. Gilroy had bout 9 bitching 'car' exec's all making 6 figs and sucked the coffers dry. The 'brilliant' Gilroy execs took an old grocery store, hired 450 employees (what the hell were they thinking) - w/ virtaully ' O ' QC, threw in an 'S & S' motor and said hey..."It's an Indian". It was nothing more then an OCC assembled bike w/ the word 'indan' on it.

Stellican has ONLY ONE SHOT of bringing America 1 helleva a bike. They know it !!! They are not 'teasing' u/ us. They are doing it correctly. A dealer network takes a cple of yrs people. Neg a warrenty takes a couple of yrs. Design takes a cple of yrs. It took HD 10 yrs to com out w/ a chopper - and that fade is at it's end.

Now, if u hav a little patience, these new "Indian cats" hired phenomenal to bring Indian back w/ well thoughtout FI reliable engine, styling, and a brand of clothing that suits Indian.

Peace b ur journey - and i look 4ward 2 c what Indian has to offer.

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One can make the case that a Harley is not worth $7000.00 more then a Honda, that being said, how can any one make the case that an Indian is worth $15000.00 more then a Harley???????????? So you can buy a Honda, or take a big loan out on a Harley, or go to a Indian stealaship and get scalped to the tune of $30.000.00 plus!!!! THIS IS GOT TO BE A BAD JOKE Mr Indian Motorcycle Co. we want to buy and if you want to sell to us , come down to a harley price and you may have a chance to sell some indians. I do not expect you to come down to a price above Honda and below Harley because you would own the motorcycle market in the world. At $30,000.00 plus this is a bad joke , but its on the Indian motorcycle Co. I came on this site with hope of the Indian come back for good , do the right thing and it will be for good , and I for one will buy a Indian motorcycle. I can aford one now at 30,000.00 plus , but I am not a fool or a sucker. Thank You Very Much

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Well for one I am glad to see that the effort to bring Indian back is in place. We at “ClassicsMotorSports” have been restoring the Original Indians since 1976. Then when the Gilroy factory shut down we started servicing those bikes as well and we will continue to do so. I agree that there are many unsold HD's, Victory’s and other brands on the showroom floors. Part of the current problem with the motorcycle industry is the price on the motorcycles is not proportional in comparison to other vehicles. Up until a few years ago, a motorcycle was always an affordable alternative or even a very affordable extra. Now a days it is a very expensive proposition. What the New Indian venture needs to do is introduce models that will appeal to everyone and price ranges that are affordable and will sell. However with only 2-3 models at very high prices how can anyone expect to compete effectively.
Like in the old days there needs to be multiple models and styles at various price structures. Such as "Junior Scout, Sport Scout, Scout, Chief and a Big Chief with an Indian Sidecar". This way there can be a motorcycle for everyone in their price range. The New Indian company needs offer models that will not only compete with HD and the other companies but will outsell them. Who would have ever thought that the Russian “Ural” motorcycles with a sidecar would take off and sell like they are doing. Multiple Models and Good Pricing Structure is the key to their success.

The New Indian Motorcycle Company needs to have Multiple Models of Great Quality backed by an Outstanding warranty, a strong dealership presence and “Competitive prices”. We at ClassicsMotorSports” would gladly consider being an Authorized Exclusive Indian Dealer

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In considering dealerships - how much, if any, brand mixing will be tolerated? Will Indian demand that they be the main line. Initial projected production volumne would not appear to be enough to support single line dealerships. Multiple line dealerships are a double edged sword. I know of many HD dealers that will carry poser bikes such as Bad Dog and American Ironbutt with inflated pricetags (chrome don't get u home) in order to elevate interest in what is then perceived to be the lower price HD's.

Any consideration to factory-based financing? Should the current state of finances continue in this country for some time (it appears it will) your initial release will be absorbed by the rich and famous and then the focus will need to shift to providing options for blue-collar America to participate in the revival of the brand. Otherwise, it will be short-lived.

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Al's Chop & Rod; Where in NM? I'm in Moab Utah & travel down to your state occasionally. I have a 2001 Scout & love it. Never had a minutes problem with it. Am even considering biting the bullet & ordering a new one. Just haven't quite decided. Thanks

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Response to "Mitch" - Would be a pleasure to have u drop by - as long as u don't need any work done - I'm 18 months backlogged in street rod projects. Located about 30 miles East of Albuquerque on I-40. E-mail provided below.

My experience during my stint as an Indian dealer tech was that the Scout proved to be the "hot rod" of the line-up, yet realtively few issues. The Chief got lighter as u rode due to parts falling off. Gilroy had to warranty everything (including lamps) to maintain a degree of customer satisfaction. The millions invested in the Powerplus 100 development failed to prevent the realiites of lubrication/cooling issues in the forward cylinder - some motors didn't make it 500 miles. Damn shame.
If the Powerplus has been re-engineered to the extent I've heard - tip of the hat to the New Indian. It would just help with the re-affirmation of the brand to provide an affordable re-engine program to those current Chief owners needing it. This would go a long way to establishing trust and confidence in the new Indian Motorcycle Company.

Glad to hear somebody's in a position to bite the bullet for a new Chief. I could do the same, except my gun's filled with blanks.

Don't know if the blog will allow it, but here's my e-mail: chop&rod@inbox.com

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As far as the pricing is concerned, an mc at 30k is way out of my price range, but they are making only 750 units. They have to have a high mark up to amortize the equipment. Do the math, low units means more dollars per unit for R&D, manufacturing, management and overhead cost. The average median income of an HD rider has more than doubled over ten years. When I was a kid the shovelhead was around. HD riders had a rule of thumb, you rode you wrench. Now days with so many RUBS, many HD riders don't know a shovelhead from a sh--head. But they have big bucks and that is who benefits the motor company. Look, these new Indians are not anything related to the Mass. Indians. They just have an Indian logo and aero skirts. The new Indian needs to go after the buyer that will pay a super premium if they manufacture low volume. Sorry but that is Business 101.

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I just checked out the new price list for the KM Chiefs.
SAD to say the least.

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Only some of you understand what it takes to start and manufacture any type of product. You have no concept of the time or the money it takes. The only thing most of you "doing the bitching about the price" can say is that you work on some line in some factory and some how that makes you an expert!
All I can say is don't judge until you see the new bikes. They are the best ever and the price will be priced accordingly to the best. If you don't like the price you can always ride the next best... same old thing "HD" By the way get back to work I think I hear your French Fri s getting burnt.

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Congrats to IMC for getting this far and accomplishing as much as they have. I'm sure it won't be long and the flagship dealership will be stocked with rides and Indian die-hards will make their pilgrimage to see the new line.

Unfortunately, while I do understand the basics of Business 101, I'm disappointed that what the Gilroy-era riders know as a Chief Roadmaster and IMC calls a "Vintage" will start at $35K, with an additional $900 charge for a color other than black and be out of reach for many if not most of us. A true iconic American brand has now become something out of reach for most of us. The flip side is, the value of my re-built "Garlic" Indian just went up a few notches.

I hope that sales go well, that the quality is there, and while I'm disappointed I won't be able to afford a new IMC Indian, someday maye I'll land a pre-owned quality certified IMC Indian . . . unless the price of gas goes to $6 a gallon and I'm on the bus all the time. Am I jealous - you bet I am! But I'll park my Indian next to any Springfield or KM Indian and take pride in her!

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$34000 for a Roadmaster? I test road the 2003 Indians and ended up buying a new Ulltra Classic. Seems like a pretty good choice now after the Indian meltdown.

I cannot see $34000 for an unknown, untested (by the public) ride with limited dealership support.

I like the style but not at that price point.

Good luck! You guys have a hard row to hoe.

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I have been watching and reading your progress to date with hope and gladness. I have been doing this because I have been riding my 2001 Ultra Classic and having enjoyed the open road, with the thought that I would be able to pickup a different ride for the 200 mile range. I put money down on a Norton thinking that this might be a good ride, and then the new company said they would not be able to bring it together and returned my down payment. I know this is a bit off track to the topic, but it is a note that I am in the market for a new Scooter. The V-chief at $35k plus is way out of range compared to anything in this class with the exception of an original Indian (circa) 1950. So I will watch knowing that the price you are posting is probable what it will take to build on a limited production, putting some bucks back into the investor’s hands. But I can’t get there, that’s my tough luck! But I can only hope you are looking to see what the trial balloon looks like and what folks have to say about it, and then find a way to sharpen the price to a reasonable reach of a premium brand of motorcycling experience.

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I gotta tell ya, some of ya sure can bitch. I think some takes this shit way too serious. It's got nothin to do with you. I think some like to go to web sites and forum and type stupid shit, I hate this and that and you suck and don't care if they do or don't and harley riders suck and mexicans suck and clinton sucks and bush is an idiot so on so on etc. I gotta say some of ya are not very happy peeps. Relax, have a beer, smoke a bowl, whatever! just relax and enjoy what ever comes your way.

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The Vintage Chiefs look awesome! I was very excited to see the pictures and updates, but not so excited when I realized the bike I want would be $36,497. I understand the startup costs involved in a new business, but I don't think I can justify the purchase of a bike that costs more than my truck and Harley combined. Here's to Indian making a strong comeback, and having pricing drop after a few years.

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Hope to see the New bikes soon and good luck to ya...! Hey Bob (tall rider) with all the work and money spent on your old Garlic Gilroy (White/EZ rebuild) you could have bought the new edition and had money in your pocket !

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Something soon please, I cant stomache the milwaukee crowd, strutting around in there gay clown suits.

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I have 3 Chiefs, a 1946 in mint condition, 65 miles after restoration. It had 43 miles before Sunday. Thats because I rode it to a bike show this past Mothers Day. Oh yea, by the way it was a peoples choice award at a local harley hang-out and the old 46 Chief took 2nd place and only missed 1st by 3 votes. Gosh if I just would have had 4 more friends! Thanks to my dad for this beautiful real machine who passed away 3 April's ago and I then purchased this bike from my mom. Not long after my dad passed I purchased an 2002 Chief. Love it so much that I just had to buy a 2003 Chief which was a Springfield. I love the Chief bikes, and that is becaus of the love that my dad had for them. As for my 2002 & 2003 Chiefs no matter where I go they are the talk and get all the looks, and this is all ages and different back grounds of different people. And on occasion there is someone in the crowd who has to knock my Chiefs and they are from the HD side. I just respond and say well whenever you want to run that bike you own that everybody else in the state of Texas owns lets get after it, because my Chief will put your HD in the dirt, I never hear anything else from them. HAHA! Not only does the Chief look better it will out run the HD. Of course I'm talking stock bikes, even the 110 screamin eagle. He didn't say no more either. So back to the new Chief coming out. I'm sure it will be one nice machine, as others I am disapointed in the price. But the old saying goes you get what you pay for. As for me I'm just going to be satisfied with what I have, and I love my Gilroy Chiefs as you guys call them the way my daddy loved his 46 Chief's. The 02/03 Chiefs were not junk they were good bikes and one day them bikes will desired like the old Springfield Chiefs. And I will enjoy pulling my 46/02/03 Chiefs next to one of these new ones anyday, because if it wasn't for guys like us or my dad's era there would be no 2009 Chief. I wish new Indian the best and maybe one day I will be able to afford one, I never thought I would be blessed and have the three that I have now. Thanks dad for all the Indian memories and that beautiful machine you restored to mint condition - You are missed! Hail to the Chief! Hail Yaa!

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I'm a retired phone guy,50 yrs old attending MMI in Phoenix . I am FIRED UP about Indian starting up again.I am in the Harley program .Now in Lab 7. BOY sure would be nice to go to an Indian Dealership in Arizona or New Mexico to be part of something special! Hope to see you in about 11 more months GOOD LUCK!!
Rick

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It may interest some people but I expect you are just producing a Harley Clone with the Indian name on .It would be much better and true to the Indian name if you took a good look at the real Indians from 1903 to 1953 and updated the 53 model in the way Indian would have done it .Many people are riding Indians and have updated gearbox and motor to give really astonishing performance for that engine design .It would be good if 90% of the parts and part numbers were Indian from the 40s and 50s .Then I would say those guys build Indians and not till then .

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I'm going to have to second "Relax" on this one guys/gals. Calm down. Dont like the prices??? Just wait a bit guys/gals. When the economy pics up and Indian realizes they need to target more than just the filthy rich for a customer base, they will come down on prices. Just think- Right now, who's still spending the big bucks? Those out there with too much money in their pockets. Or the average guy/gal who cant wait to own a piece of American History. Those first 750 units they plan on putting out have to make up for all the $$$ they had put into the company just to build it back up. Do what I'm doing-sitting back and watching the first 750 bikes go out into the public. I'll read the reviews, talk to some guys/gals that were willing to buy them. Find out how they ride. But I'm not buying one of those. I'll take VIN # 751. IF its worth it.

This is NOT your grandfathers Indian!!

I have read each post from beginning to end. They started out consisting of polite intelligence, but several of the latter comments became rude and undeserved, and some wreaked of stupidity. One poster pointed out that many do not understand the sheer magnitude of what Mr. Julius and Mr. Heese have undertaken. This is not their first swing at resurrecting legacy brand-popular companies from extinction. They have been successful in their past ventures, and they will find a way to make this new Indian corporation fly. They have hired some of the best minds and experience in the business. So stand by.

I currently own two HDs (RK and Ultra). I enjoy riding the HD, but I am keeping a close eye on what comes out of Kings Mountain. The trap that HD fell into was mass production, snotty dealers, Pakistan-made clothing, whoring out to Wall Street, and prostituting the soul and health of the company for wealth for a few insiders. The new Indian company will be privately held, financed by and handfull of folks out of their own assets. I suggest that judgement be reserved until you have given Indian the chance the company deserves. If you are pissed with the old Indian company, too bad. It's gone. Go change your kotex, and have a some cheese with your whine.

BTW...some of you bitch if things cost a lot, right? Then you bitch if cheap products are utilized from China to bring the price down...right? How long have American made cars, produced by union people making $35 plus bux an hour, been sold to the average joe making $12 an hour? You can be sure that Indian's new dealers will have financing options that will allow you to be able to have one of the new bikes and not have to settle for that bone-stock, cheap looking crap coming out of Milwaukee.

There is a brand new article in the July issue of rider Magazine. Page 30. It's well done and will give you a little bit of insight on what the new company is about (business model) and where it is headed. No, not all the questions are answered, but if you wanted all the questions answered, you should have bought the damn company yourself!! ridermagazine.com

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While I'm very enthused about the possibility of reproducing the Indian mototcycle once again, I'm equally skeptic about the fact that the Chief is supposedly due for production buy the end of this years, yet at this time there are no actual photos of the product (only artist's renditions of what they should look like), no known dealerships, or any other information that should absolutely be available to the public just several months away from production. I would be very cautious about paying for a deposit to hold a 2009 model bike.

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Anybody know? Probably missed it - curious about the warranty package in this deal. At 35 large, at least a 3 year unlimited mileage tip to tail would be appropriate. Provided the product has been re-engineered to the extent needed then this is a minimum cost feature to the factory. Add to that an included factory maintenance schedule and you can set the market. If your going to raise the bar - then raise the bar.

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Beautifull Bike, hope the financing options will allow me the Luxury. The wait has been worth it.
Has the Shaft drive in any model been given consideration?
Congatulations!!!
PM.

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Happy 107th Birthday Indian 05/30/2008

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Does it come as a hybrid??

Really, I wish success for the company and the brand, but I've seen so many good ideas and efforts go down the drain when the business plan was emotionally based. How about starting out with a scooter line first, then a great 650 commuter, then a sporty cruiser that gets great mileage and goes like a Honda. That may sound way to pragmatic, but another clunky V twin powered iron barge? What are you thinking? Honda just made their 60 MILLIONTH Super Cub. Now there's a business plan a banker can relate to! Why not build a dual-sport first and peddle it as a commuter; get the sales and dealers up, and the cash flowing a bit, then roll out the Queen Mary line. I know, commuters don't drink enough beer to get excited about a bar to bar bike! Good luck, but in my world gas is headed for $5, folks are missing house payments, and show bikes are a dime a dozen on Craigslist. Wanna buy an Emu? She's got papers, and looks just like the earlier models!

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I was looking to buy a bike in 2003 and I heard that they started having financial problems. Indian is the only bike I've ever
liked I hope that you guys are successful in your venture because I plan to buy a bike but don't want to pay 30k for it.
When are your dealer lists coming out? I live in the Austin-San Antonio area. I am looking forward to seeing your bike soon.

Is the future more promising than the past

Many of us have ridden since we were kids. I began at age 13 on a mo-ped, graduated to a chopped 1950 Panhead and at age 15 when I knew nothing about Indian, put my legs over a Royal Enfield. I thought it was an Indian but it wasn't until 1974 while in the Marines stationed in N.C. that I found and traded a 1936 HD VLD for a 1946 rolling chassis Indian Chief.

It took me 3 years of locating parts before I had it restored in a cabin I rented and when the choice was made to trade it off I regreted the decision until this year, 30 years later, I've acquired a 1946 Chief again.

In the mid 1990's when hype was out to produce an Indian and coats were advertised showing the Indian logo, interested parties were sought out to buy into franchise rights. Some know more than others the disasters that fell on some serious potential dealers. It wasn't until 2001 that I finally saw up close a recent model Indian in a Knoxville, TN showroom. To me it lacked something though. It was a shame to fine the company closing around 2004 yet I found a coat in a Wisconsin Store and bought it.

The new Indian being produced at Kings Mountain is over $10,000 more than a new HD Ultra. According to some hype I've read, the focus is on the upper white collar worker. Sought out is a $1000 down payment yet it is hard to justify sending in a payment when there is no sign of a return email note from Indian or refund information if it never takes off. The website and pictures represent a lot of serious effort and as excited as the next person is to hope that this time the company does well, the mysterious nature in which I've been handed makes me wonder...just wonder if the effort will be actually producing the bikes as depicted.

The optional side of course is to actually become a part of the tradition whether on the engineering side, management, service or sales. The future being offered....I hope it brings more promise than the past.

The high price tag along well above any conventional bike being offered and coupled with poor response from those at Kings Mountain I wonder just how many others are scratching their heads at a bike whose style hasn't changed much since 2004...yet whose price tag has skyrocketed. Still I look forward to seeing the bikes, parts made available and of course the clothing choices when made.

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WOW...alot of comments. Well since watching and back seat driving kinda go hand in hand gimme a brew and lemme drive for a minute. First 30-35k dayuuumm. But what do I get for it? An american made COMPLETELY machine, hard to come by so thats worth something to me for sure(and no i dont shop at freakin wally world). I am a machine shop owner so i like that. Now then what else oh yeah while I look out in my garage and see my 01 scout. What about the gilroy builds? are the dealers going to be apart of that era of IMC? Right now and for the past few years I havnt heard anything about supporting them. Lets say I did put down my deposit and take delivery, I am in cincinnati not a test market would Detroit be my closest dealer? As I think about my toys and the things I hate most about them one thing comes to mind SERVICE! I want to get my fat ass in my gas sucking big truck and drive down to some place and buy that freakin ten dollar part that I need! Not wait on the UPS guy for it. I realize IMC has big plans and wants to be exclusive in a market. But ya just have to take care of the little guy out there who wants to change his own oil and do little shit that he can besides shine paint. Just a little insight here all my freinds that own high end toys bitch about SERVICE. either you cant get it or they act like they are doing you a favor and the biggest is HD, Then its my boat dealer. At least if your gonna stroke me for high end try and make me feel good about it Ever concider just a service network that can fill those holes? You know places that make thier money by turning around great service ONLY. No damn T shirts shoes and any other stuff that fills floor space besides the pure pleasure of a bike that rides and handles like it was born under your ass or the thumping of a motor that just leaves the testosterone running down your leg( and anymore her leg)! At 49 years old and i decide to ride. I want a low lean and mean machine, one that commands heads to turn, you have the motor, now put it in a bike! Yahoo search a 2004 indian scout. wanna really sell to people that are an up and coming market. Put a sportster size motor package together in a softail frame. and make it afffordable for a first bike! Large..sorry dudes i dont see my wife riding a cheif (who btw can afford it) But at 5'4" and 130 its intimidating even to look at when your that size. I have a T that says" INDIAN MOTORCYCLE..we dont need a fuckin factory" I like it because we all took a chance when we bought one and we do now keeping them up and show pieces that turn heads.
ok I am done...besides i gotta get out of this back seat and take a leak.

Wish you the best IMC...just dont forget regular people are the ones who decide the fate of any business

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I guess this is as good a place as any to ask this question. I have an 01 Centennial Scout. Do any of you know where I could find replacement saddle bag latches? The kind that turn & latch. I ordered some but they are too short to go thru the leather and then the wood. Any help is appreciated.

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YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME. RELIANCE ON INDIAN'S WELL DESERVED HISTORY FROM 1901 THRU THE FORTY'S, AND ALL THE LITERAL HYPE YOUR TRYING TO SELL IT WITH NOW, I DONT BELIEVE IS GONNA BE ENOUGH. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLETELY DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM THE REPUTATION THAT THE '03 & '04 GUYS LEFT YOU WITH. THE ODOMETER ON MY 2000 CHIEF SAYS 37,000 MILES- AND (KNOCK ON WOOD) THEY HAVE BEEN TROUBLE FREE. I BELIEVE THIS IS DUE TO QUALITY COMPONENTS...THAT WERE SOON REPLACED WITH LESSER COMPONENTS IN THE YEARS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING. IF YOU CAN FIND SOMEONE THAT IS WILLING TO PAY $35000.00 FOR YOUR BIKE, (WHICH IS VERY HARD FOR ME TO COMPREHEND), THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS GIVE THEM THEIR MONEYS WORTH. I AM VERY HAPPY WITH MY BIKE, AND AM IN NO WAY TRYING TO PUT YOU DOWN, BUT I STILL HEAR HORROR STORIES FROM OTHER PREVIOUS OWNERS. I'VE HEARD THE '99S AND 2000'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE GOOD ONES, I ALSO BELIEVE THIS IS DUE TO NOT SKIMPING ON QUALITY, AND USING "PROVEN" COMPONENTS. WHAT I CAN SEE IN THE BIKE THAT YOUR OFFERING FOR 2009....IS A BIKE THAT IS BY ALL APPEARANCES THE EXACT SAME BIKE THAT BROUGHT THE RESURRECTED COMPANY TO ITS GRAVE A FEW YEARS AGO. IN MY MOST HUMBLE OPINION, RESPECTFULLY.....FOR 35 GRAND, IT AIN'T GONNA FLY.

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Erin, There are many issues raised by owners. Part of the unwritten rules of a Blog is that you need to respond to some if not all of these questions...a lot of work but I can see a very suspicious group. I own a 03 that had all sorts of issues..since have had Crazy Horse LLC work them all out and it rides better and smotther than any brand new 03 ever did!

1. Will support and parts for the Gilroy Indians be made available? Without it you will have a few thousand bikes that look very much like the new ones giving you some real bad advertising. This is a question you have been dodging Erin, time to step up to the plate and srtart answering valid questions.

2. As a Senior Elec. Engineer I also have to take care of a family and have some "balance" in life. There are snowmobiles trucks cars etc. that all take time and money. The 30K plus price point for a skinny tire bike is unrealistic. You have to have a proven elite product to justify that.

3. In any high end business it is the "installed base" that sells! You just wont get far with over priced motorcycles...dont forget...irregardless of how much blood and sweat you put in you have to get the bikes on the road. A few wealthy boys that ride 200miles a year wont show that bike to anybody else very often. The other group may be similar to hig end snowmobiles........there are many kids out there that have them, and not much of anything else in their lives. You will lose your "Core" rider network. Failure to support the exsisting rider network will cause many riders to give you bad press on the streets...remember an 09 looks very close to my 03....I would hat to forget what year and who manufactured it when someone interested asks me what I think about this bike..hmmmmm. Erin get with the program and start answering questions!

4. Communication is paramount....two responses to a blog is hardly good communication. Erin...did I mention you need to start answering questions?

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So many questions I don't know where to begin.
Let's just say I am so pleased to see this Company, Name and Product, with such American Heritage, come back around again.
I look forward to the completion of the Detroit Michigan Indian Dealer and meeting with all concerned at its grand opening, whenever it will take place.

T.Noble
Taylor, MI

Mark W.

Thank you for your comments. There are 2 questions in your post.
1. "Will support and parts for the Gilroy Indians be made available?"
This is entirely at our dealers' discretion. We encourage it and so far, the idea has gotten a positive response from our dealer candidates. If anyone is trying to locate parts before their local dealership opens, please email me and I will do my best to help you: etracy@indianmotorcycle.com. We do not maunfacture parts for the Gilroy-era bikes and we did not receive any leftover stock of them when we purchased the Indian marque.
2. "did I mention you need to start answering questions?"
Yes.

I have posted my email address above. Please feel free to send me any questions you may have in the future. I do receive a large volume of emails everyday, but I try to answer them in a timely manner. Before sending a message, I encourage you to check our FAQ section to be sure the question hasn't already been answered there.

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I only have one question for you - when will the Indian Chief be available in the UK? For any 'old school' biker (such as myself), male or female, its a 'MUST HAVE'!! The Indian I'm personally interested in? The Chief Deluxe. Bright Blessings, the one and only, Croft Angel x

The presents of the Indiana symbol

Would it not be great to have a symbol (Logo) of the "new" Indiana motorcycle to hang in your truck, motor home, or car with the dealers name on the back where you purchased your new Indiana motorcycle? I just want to know if there is interest in this idea.

mgallagher@maesales.com

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will you have a side car???Nice looking bike....

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After a long ride through western North Carolina yesterday, my friend and I pulled off at the Cramerton Road exit off of I-85 and followed the signs that teased 'Indian Motorcycles'... we pulled up to a giant building with the parking lot still under construction and stopped - our jaws dropped open when we saw the new Indian dealership! It was apparent that it was not yet open so we were prepared to turn around and ride off. However, a guy came out to meet us and told us even though they were not open, to please pull around and come inside to see the future dealership. We made our way through the gravel parking lot and parked in front, I backed my '05 Fatboy and my friend backed her '05 Road King next to mine, and we strolled inside. True, the dealership was not yet ready to open but they had some racks of Indian MC apparel, some Indian memorabilia around and - the best part!! - the first Indian manufactured under the new ownership!! Breath-taking! There was a total of 6 bikes - a 1913 Chief, a 1940's Chief and - our favorite!! - a stunning black 2009 Chief Standard. Though I do not have the detailed knowledge of Indian's past history, I know that I love riding, currently have 3 Harleys in our garage and with the prospect of the Indian resurrection, have been looking forward to the new ones. All I know is what I like. I was walking around with my jaw open, staring at the new bikes, admiring the new tweaks in design and the obvious attention to detail on these, when my eyes fell on the black Standard sitting in the corner. It was like one of those scenes in the movies where the sun is shining on that one spot, bike in the center, and you hear the choir music in the background... Some of you may understand when you are looking for something and the moment you see 'the one', you know what I'm talking about!! A quick glance at the VIN number on the frame told me it was #5 from the factory. One of the details that struck me was the modified front and rear fenders - not as 'deep' as the classic Indian style. This is one tweak that won me over! Some may complain the fender style is reminiscent of the HD Fatboy... I happen to LOVE that style!! (Did I mention I ride a Fatboy?!?! ;) I found myself examining every inch of the bike, checking out all the details... It is truly an impressive bike.

There were only a handful of people there - 5 or 6 who are involved in some manner with the Indian Motorcycle Company - and 4 or 5 interested people (like us!) who had just shown up to see what was going on. The Indian personnel were more than gracious to us, chatting and answering questions, obviously extremely proud of their Company's potential future. I am proud for them and very excited to see what comes out of King's Mountain, and eagerly await hearing customer reviews of the 'new product'. Like so many here, improvements to cosmetic details are one thing - performance and customer service will be most important.

After we were leaving, I stopped for a photo next to the Indian Motorcycle demo trailer and up strolled this tall guy dressed in leathers with helmet in hand. With a noticeable British accent, he introduced himself as 'Stephen', visited with us for a while, talked about his hope for great things ahead for Indian Motorcycles. He was extremely pleasant and what impressed me was he asked us questions and seemed to actually be listening to us. He seemed to be interested in the fact of the size of bikes that each of us ride (us being females) and that we were interested in the Chief. We told him there will be many more females interested in that size of bike, lots of women ride and should be regarded as a serious customer base. We wished them best of luck, geared up and as we rode off, he climbed on one of the models there - a stunning red Indian - and followed us out. We lost him on I-85 as we headed home to Charlotte, NC. I had no idea that he was none other than Stephen Julius. If you follow the resurrection of the Indian Motorcycle Company, you know who he is.

Price for the new '09's?? I admit it's steep for my own budget... That is why what happens in the next months of Indian's resurrection will be critical to my own purchase decision. But I've always wanted one and seeing number #5 makes me know that I WANT ONE. I'm holding a special place in my garage for a black Standard with the tan leather seat...

A perfect end to a perfect riding day.

P.S. Stephen: If you need demo riders, there are two of us here in Charlotte who will be more than happy to be test riders! ;)

ChiefFan

ChiefFan,

Thanks so much for posting your story! I pulled up at the dealership last Saturday just as you girls were leaving, so I didn't have a chance to hear your thoughts on the showroom. I must agree with you on the black Chief Standard, I am drawn to it as well, though I prefer the long fenders. Please send me your name & email address when you have a chance. etracy@indianmotorcycle.com

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Just want to say that I live in "Harley-Town". That's Milwaukee WI for anyone that don't know! I own a 2002 Indian Spirit Delux and absolutely love it! I get many of the usual "harley" riders around here staring at myh sweet ride. They all look and have this suprised look on thier face. The next comment is "Nice...!" I think many of these people in this blue-collar twon would be more apt to buying an indian if it wasn't so expensive. I mean if someone wants a bike that looks half way decent, don't you all think they are going to settle for a Harley as they have been doing for the past several years? Com'n 30k plus is kinda rediculous..don't you think?

Another question? Are you going to have parts available for my 2002 Indian Spirit? Will you have an on-line parts website? There have been countless hours searching the net for parts and apparell.

Good luck and looking forward to seeing more Indian riders in Milwaukee.

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Hopefully this time around indian wont grow so fast it implodes. I know thw one dealership that gilroy had just north of fagro north dakota didnt help with indians image but the one thing i noticed with the 3 bikes in the front room a scout,spirit and cheif. Was how the paint looked like someone painted it themsevles with a lot of imperfections. So i am hopefull that this time around everything go's much better. Cause my next purchase will be either a hd softtail springer or a new cheif. unless of coarse i can talk this guy i know out of his 47 knucklehead witch probably wont happen. Best of luck with start up!!! Cant wait to here more!!! And if ya do go on to make 3 model's like gilroy did hopefully the scout, cheif can have a powercrusier as the middle kid will be a warrior running a lighter frame with a 105 powerplus Hint,Hint but that will be further down the road im sure. Thank's for keeping the indian alive and all the loyal customer's to follow

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Where have you been in the last 9 years? Those fenders are from a Gilroy era Indian Spirit? and the Spirit was less in price than the chief , but not this time around , now the Spirit is call a chief! What a rip off!

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Ed -
So sorry we missed you!
The dealership's official grand opening is scheduled for October 4th. I hope to meet you then.
And to answer your question- yes, the warbonnet on the fender lights up over the dealership at night.

Make us proud...

Just purchased up a low mile 2001 Centennial Chief - absolutely beautiful, great riding bike. I've always considered Indian the icon of the road. I never expected the HD bunch to stare & admire so much.... what can you say. I'm looking forward to owning the brand for the rest of my days.

California? I've often wondered who would attempt to open manufacturing in California... no suprise the 99'-03' effort was a disaster.

The new bike will succeed. Pricey? Yes - just remember it wasn't that long ago we all bought pick-up trucks because they were the cheapest thing on the lot. If I told you 25 years ago these could cost over $40K you would have laughed. If you were approached 20 years ago about investing in a water company - to bottle & sell something that falls from the sky - would you have laughed? Amazing...

I will observe with interest & start saving for my new Chief... with a little luck I will order the 2015 edition.

Good Luck, do it right & make us proud. Bring back the pride, ingenuity, & glory that will once again be the envy of the world!

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Future? Air cooled motor? Come on people, nostalgia is nice but, modern technology should be embraced within the nostalgic look. The drive train is too important.

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Looking forward to seeing the new model at cooks corner. Heard a lot about it from the website

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Wish you the best of luck, however, after 2 years with my '01 Spirit, I've reluctently thrown in the towel. Never had so many electrical problems with any bike in my life....the only thing reason I kept it so long was because of the thrill of riding it. Absolutely no other bike on the road can match an Indian, when it runs.
A little sour right now, but if the new Indians prove to be reliable, who knows.

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can't wait for the new factory event coming up in oct. iv'e been getting ready for this with new tires and a good pressure washing to clean it cause it makes it easy to see if anything else might need attention before the ride from mickey mouse to kings mountain. see ya'll there, hooah

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I WOULD LIKE TO TELL EVERYONE OUT THERE THAT YOU ALL MISSED A VERY RARE EXPERIENCE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FACTORY TOUR AND THE DEALER PARTY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTO'S PICTURE 4,6 YOU WILL SEE THAT I RODE VINTAGE #131 TO THE EVENT FROM ORLANDO FLA. MY BEST FRIEND AND OTHER HALF RODE HER SOFTAIL AND NEVER COMPLAINED WHICH WAS GOOD FOR A 5'2 WOMAN TO HOLD HER SLED IN THE WIND WITH ME FOR 12 HRS AND 1119 MILES FROM GARAGE TO INDIAN LAND AND BACK. WE'RE IN OUR LATE FIFTIES BUT IT DOSEN'T MATTER, PLUS WE FOUND OURSELVES IN PHOTO'S 5 AND 7 (THE CROWD BOTH TIMES.) WE MET SOME OF THE NICEST PEOPLE THROUGH OUT THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE. WE LEFT ORLANDO ON OCT 3 AND PARKED IN THE GARAGE OCT 5 AT 2030 HRS. WE KEPT OUR SLED'S RUNNING AROUND 70 TO 75 THE WHOLE ROUND TRIP, ABOUT 12 HRS EACH WAY. SEE YA'LL NEXT EVENT. COWBOY AND INDIAN, I'M OUT.

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How is the current economic situation going to affect the new 'Indians'? It seems that this impending financial crisis has caught every one just a little flat footed. A lot of folks that could have and would have purchased a 'roadmaster' may now not be in a position to do so. What ever the outcome of our current financial woes I sincerely hope that the new Indian is a success.

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How about some desk top wallpaper. I would love to look at a Roadmaster each time I turn my computer on.

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I alwalys dremed of owning an Indian. When I heard that they are buiding again by a new company, it got me very intererested. Until I seen what the price was, still interested, but stared looking at new bikes on the web. I heard alot of problems out there. I need some advice from experinced Indian owners. What do I look for? What do I stay away from? What do I buy before I can aford a new one.